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OH-2: Cook Political Analysis

Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 07:57:26 AM PDT

(From the diaries -- kos)

Every Tuesday morning, I get email from the Cook Political Report analyzing current events. Today's email is about the Oh-02 election. I'll let the analysis speak for itself.

OFF TO THE RACES
The Making Of Something Special In Ohio-02

By Charlie Cook
Tuesday, Aug. 2, 2005

It's obvious why the national party committees hate special elections. They are volatile, unpredictable and take place outside the natural campaign rhythm -- often forcing committees to make campaign spending decisions long before they'd like. With nothing else on the ballot, voter turnout is often abysmally low, making polling particularly unreliable as it's extremely difficult to gauge just how tight to screen for likely voters. As a result, upsets are not that uncommon in special elections, and sometimes these elections can be harbingers of what's to come in the next election.

Special elections in 1993 and early 1994, for example, gave us a sneak preview of the storm clouds Democrats were headed for down the road.

In Kentucky's 2nd District, Republican Ron Lewis easily won a special election in May of 1994 to replace longtime popular Democrat Bill Natcher -- an early sign of the beating Democrats were going to take that November in southern districts across the country.

In Wisconsin, a special election in May of 1993 to replace popular Democratic Rep. Les Aspin -- who had been tapped by President Clinton to serve as secretary of Defense -- proved to be a political canary-in-a-coal-mine as well. Democrat Peter Barca beat Republican Mark Neumann by just 675 votes in a district that Aspin had easily carried for 23 years. Just a few months earlier, Aspin had crushed Neumann with 58 percent of the vote. In 1994, Neumann beat Barca by 1,120 votes.

The special election for the record books was in February 1974 in Michigan's 5th District to replace Minority Leader Gerald Ford, who had just been named vice president to replace Spiro Agnew. The 5th was as Republican (and Dutch) a district as they come, so state Sen. Robert Vanderlaan (R) was expected to easily dispatch Democrat Richard Vanderveen. But the Democrat pulled off the upset of the decade, winning 51 percent to 44 percent in a district that President Nixon had won just 15 months earlier with 61 percent. That election was a signal that the Watergate constellation of issues was so radioactive that it could beat a perfectly respectable Republican candidate even in a rock-ribbed GOP district like this one.

Will today's special election in Ohio's 2nd District be that crystal ball for 2006? On its face, this heavily Republican district sure doesn't look like it should be any sort of bellwether. President Bush's 64 percent last year suggests that any Democrat has an enormous amount of ground to cover just to break even. When Republican former state Rep. Jean Schmidt narrowly won the 12-way Republican primary on June 14, besting early favorites Hamilton County Commissioner Pat DeWine and former Rep. Bob McEwen with 31.4 percent of the vote, it was assumed that her hard work was over. After all, the Cook Political Report 'Partisan Voting Index' rating is R+13, which means that in the combined
two-party vote in the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections, this district voted 13 percentage points more Republican than the country as a whole.

Only four Democrats currently represent districts equally or more Republican as this one: Chet Edwards (Texas-17/PVI:R+18), Jim Matheson (Utah-02/PVI:R+17), Gene Taylor (Miss.-04/PVI:R+16) and Earl Pomeroy (N.D.-At Large/PVI:R+13). Democrats win districts as Republican as this one only under the strangest of circumstances, just as Republicans win comparably Democratic districts under equally odd conditions.

Democrats in Ohio's 2nd District nominated Paul Hackett, an attorney and Iraq War veteran, over four other Democratic contenders. Three times as many voters turned out in the more high-profile Republican primary (45,390) than the Democratic contest (13,774), just another sign of how overwhelmingly Republican this district is.

While some would argue that an August special election is likely to attract only the most committed voters, which in a district like this means conservative Republicans. Another argument would be that angry, disaffected voters turn out in such elections, which could mean Democrats or disillusioned Republicans. And if there is a state in the country that is causing heartburn for Republicans these days, it is Ohio. According to the Almanac of American Politics, no party has held onto the governorship in the Buckeye State for more than eight years since George K. Nash did in 1899, until current Gov. Robert Taft won in 1998, taking over for Republican George Voinovich who was elected that year to the Senate. Currently every single statewide elected office is held by a Republican, with Republicans holding a 22-11 advantage in the state Senate and a 60-39 majority in the state House.

So while the state is used to "rotating the crops" in terms of governors on eight year cycles, Ohio skipped that rotation in 1998. The state is now embroiled in a series of scandals that have rocked the governing Republican
Party, most notably one called "Coingate." Recent polls have shown that the ongoing investigation of Thomas Noe, a Republican fundraiser and coin dealer who has been accused of bilking millions from the state's Bureau of Worker's Compensation, has taken a serious toll on Taft's standing in the state. A late June Democratic poll showed Taft's approval rating at just 19 percent. That same poll showed that 50 percent of voters agreed that Republicans should be held responsible for the scandals.

Republicans are obviously watching this race closely to ascertain the level of collateral damage to the party caused by the Taft administration scandals, especially since they have an incumbent senator, Mike DeWine, up for re-election, as well as an open governors' race and potentially several vulnerable Republican congressional seats. GOP strategists involved in the campaign note that while the political environment in Ohio is not great, the president's numbers remain solid and the generic ballot test is still tilted strongly in their favor. Yet, the decision by the National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee to buy $325,000 worth of TV advertising attacking Hackett during the last week of the campaign suggests that this race is tighter than anyone thought it would be.

Hackett, not surprisingly, is taking every opportunity he can to tie Schmidt to the unpopular governor. At a debate on July 26, the Cincinnati Enquirer noted that Hackett mentioned Taft's name in the same sentence with Schmidt at least 12 times. An ad the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee started running on Friday did the same, noting that Schmidt supported Governor Taft's gas tax and "like Taft, Schmidt has been hit on ethics. She for taking gifts and meals from Columbus lobbyists."

Hackett's TV ad -- which starts with a clip of President Bush praising American soldiers at Fort Bragg this June -- highlights his service as an Iraq War veteran and helps to cloak his party ID, key in a district where John Kerry got just 36 percent of the vote. And, with Schmidt running only positive ads, Hackett was able to build up his profile among these traditionally Republican voters without consequence. It is not a surprise, therefore, that the NRCC advertising served to introduce Hackett as a "liberal Democrat" who has a history of raising and supporting tax increases.

Traditionally, a Democratic candidate running in a district like this one would have trouble raising national money. Until they went up this weekend with an approximately $200,000 ad buy, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had been on the sidelines financially. But, the growing influence of blog fundraising means that party involvement has become less important. Democracy for America (the group founded by Howard Dean and run by his brother Jim),
announced July 21 that they raised "nearly $80,000" in two days for Hackett's campaign. And, a recent Cincinnati Enquirer story noted that a group called ActBlue.com, brought in more than $300,000 over the last week to Hackett's
coffers.

Bottom line: Schmidt, the Republican, is still favored to win the election, but don't rule out the possibility of an upset, given the vagaries of August special election voter turnout and the problems unique to Ohio this year. But even assuming a GOP win tonight, the margin of victory can give us some insight into just how radioactive the governor's troubles and the "time for a change" sentiment in the state will be for other Republicans in the Buckeye State next
year. If Schmidt's victory margin is in double digits, this tells us that there is not much of an anti-GOP wind in Ohio right now. If the margin is say six to nine points for Schmidt, then there is a wind, but certainly no hurricane. A Schmidt win of less than five points should be a very serious warning sign for Ohio Republicans that something is very, very wrong, while a Hackett victorywould be a devastating blow to the Ohio GOP
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  •  Thanks (4.00 / 6)

    Thanks for this nice analysis.  The summary seems in line with pretty much everything I've seen.

    This being said, I'm super pleased with the value of the $101 that I sent to the campaign.  I think of it this way:  The half million or so that the Netroots have raised for Hackett has bought, literally, the equivalent of millions of dollars in advertising in terms of media exposure for Dems, not just in Ohio, but nationwide.

    Good show.

    Can't wait for the results.

    Welcome to the Great Foreclosure.

    by bink on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:00:18 AM PDT

    •  The national free-media that the Hackett (4.00 / 3)

      campaign has brought for Democrats has been fantastic. Good point.

      It's also important to note that the paid advertising from the Hackett campaign also gets aired in WV and other OH districts. It can help blunt the ludicrous "Democrats don't support the military" BS in other districts for the time being.

      "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins in November." -- Rahm Emanuel

      by Newsie8200 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:08:55 AM PDT

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  •  Fingers crossed... (none / 0)

    ...for a devastating blow.  

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-- how much worse lying lips to a ruler - Proverbs 17:7

    by BarbinMD on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:00:55 AM PDT

    •  Not only for Ohio GOP but.. (4.00 / 3)

      I think it would be a huge slap in the face for the Rethugs nation wide and a HUGE pick me up for the Dems! Plus validation of Dean's fight in all fifty states strategy.

      I'm not under the delusions that we will win. I know the numbers in that district but DAMN it would be nice...

  •  It's like,,,,,,, (none / 0)

    the Presidential election.  I'm nervous, chewing my nails, sitting on the edge of my seat.  

    Things are so bad in this country, this Senate election just seems to have so much riding on it.  We have an outstanding candidate, and I sure hope, in a state riddled with Republican scandal, that the voters have been paying attention.  

    I'm going to have my fingers crossed all day.

    "But your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore"--Prine 4100+ dead Americans. Bring them home.

    by Miss Blue on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:01:14 AM PDT

    •  Same feeling, but (none / 0)

      Just so you know, this is a House election.  Senate replacements are appointed by Governors.  But I do agree with the feeling right now.  I feel like its November 2.  Hopefully this will turn out better.
  •  We have already won (4.00 / 3)

    This was supposed to be an easy race for the GOP to hold on to.  Hackett has made it close.  We have nothing to lose with this race.  If Schmidt wins tonight, then things stay the same, as this was a solid Republican seat.  This race will probably be within 10 points, thats my prediction.
  •  Sounds about right to me. (none / 0)

    Some of the people embroiled in the Ohio GOP scandals have been indicted recently, so it's been in the news.  It matters, of course, how the media is covering Coingate.

    Right-leaning OH media could make it a "well everybody is a corrupt hack" thing to diminish anti-GOP furvor.

    GOP strategists involved in the campaign note that while the political environment in Ohio is not great, the president's numbers remain solid and the generic ballot test is still tilted strongly in their favor.

    What are Bush's numbers in OH generally?  Bush's numbers among Republicans in the nation remain strong, although not as strong as they were during election day 2004.

    "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins in November." -- Rahm Emanuel

    by Newsie8200 on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:04:28 AM PDT

  •  Is it wrong to hope for a hurricane? (none / 1)

  •  6-9, down from 30-40 (4.00 / 5)

    is only wind?

    Well wind can blow a house down, especially one as rotten to the floorboards as the Republican house in Ohio.

    I like this pic...please go recommend on Yahoo:

    election day for a fighting dem

  •  spot on (none / 0)

    Cook's analysis is dead on, as usual.

    I'm betting she wins, but not by much.

  •  We're Not Living a Fairy Tale.... but... (none / 0)

    ...while a Hackett victorywould be a devastating blow to the Ohio GOP.

    ...is not out of the question!  Mr. Cook has covered all the bases and can declare he "saw it coming..." if it happens.

    The Christian Right is Neither...

    by Prairie Logic on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:08:52 AM PDT

  •  A great article! (4.00 / 4)

    I used to live in that district, I know how Republican it can be.  I was also down there this past weekend, and I was happily surprised at the amount of advertising the Hackett campaign is doing.  I saw plenty of yard signs, and the whole time I was down there I heard many Hackett ads on the radio, but no Schmidt ads.

    No matter what happens we need to keep the momentum from the Hackett campaign moving forward in Ohio.  All we need is Ohio to win in 2008.  If we can take over the governorship and a few key congressional and statewide races, it will be much easier to turn Ohio blue in 2008.

  •  Will it really be a harbinger though?? (none / 0)

    Not to bring anyone down, but will a Hackett win really be a sign of future successes? I mean, Ben Chandler and Stephanie Herseth last year won in heavily Republican areas, and we ended up losing seats in the general(admittedly, we would have made gains had it not been for Delay's redistricting). Of course, the OH GOP is very, very corrupt and Dems have a great chance next year statewide, but let's not necessarily take this as a sign that it will automatically happen. Similarly, let's not take a loss too hard either.
    •  Come on (4.00 / 2)

      The Kentucky-06 and South Dakota wins DID signal Democratic gains in the House. Had the DeLaymander not happened in Texas, we would be talking about the Democratic gains in the House last year and using that as an example of things to come.
    •  Chandler and Herseth were much different situation (none / 1)

      Herseth had just ran an unexpectedly close race against the incumbent governor for that House seat plus her grandfather had been Governor as well. Chandler had just come off losing a Governor's race and had high name rec, also his father or grandfather had been governor too. They were both high profile and moderate. Hackett was certainly not high profile when he got into the race.
    •  Harbinger or not (4.00 / 2)

      Stephanie Herseth is still in Congress. As is Ben Chandler. Once you win the special, the stakes change for the general dramatically, and what was once a shoe-in no contest district now is one step closer to Speaker Pelosi.
    •  as I see it (none / 0)


      it's a straight referendum on the present variety of hardline (i.e. Rightist) Republicanism in a district that is a typical hardline Republican stronghold.

      If Hackett wins imho it's a pretty good sign that the post-Nixon Rightist coalition is in very real decline, truly running thin on political rationale with its serious supporters and leaners.

      What it means for '06 is whether Republicans can continue on as before or how and where they need to shift their emphases.  A RTL leader barely winning or outright losing a race in what must be the most Christian Right/anti-abortion district in Ohio...pretty glaring points.

      Renewal. Not mere reforms. We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.

      by killjoy on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:41:29 AM PDT

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    •  not down at all (4.00 / 2)

      When someone starts a post with "Not to bring anyone down, but..." you can bet that they absolutely plan to bring you down.

      When someone on a team says "it's not that big a deal if we lose", it's time to make a trade.

      If Hackett wins today, it's no less than huge.  And if he doesn't, we ought to damn well take it hard, because the stakes are enormous.  Every season that goes by with the Republicans in charge brings more mortal damage to the values that have made this country great.  And until we Dems remind ourselves that the values we hold dear are powerful, meaningful, and fundamentally American, and we do more than just sniff at the ugly belief systems that make the Right so un-American, un-Christian, and capital-W "Wrong", (not just distasteful), we won't win, and we won't deserve to win.

      Let's not be so cynical that we can't see how important this Ohio election is, and how much it represents a struggle of right vs. wrong, good vs. bad, decent vs. poisonously corrupt.

      nittacci

  •  If Hackett wins...or comes close, (4.00 / 3)

    it also proves that Dems need to talk tough, and not   pander to the middle so much. I'm tired of the timidity by the Democratic party all of these past years. We need to walk proud, and say it like we see it.

    Good luck, Gen. Hackett!

  •  Prediction time (none / 0)

    Okay, make your predictions.

    I'm betting that based on Taft's devastating unpopularity, the perception of a corrupt Ohio GOP, and the coming of a Democratic wave in Ohio next year, Hackett gets ~45% of the vote...which, for this district, is a miracle.

    Prediction: Schmidt 54%, Hackett 46%...??? Do any of you have something better?

  •  I question Cooks margins... (4.00 / 3)

    I'm not making a prediction here, but I have disagreed with Cooks margin prediction meanings more than once this morning.

    Lets look at some previous results for this house seat
    In 2004 R's took 71.7% of the vote
    In 2002 R's took 74% of the vote
    In 2000 R's took 73.6% of the vote

    Or in other words on standard elections the margin has been
    In 2004 43.4%
    In 2002 48%
    In 2000 47.2%

    So why all of a sudden if we get within 20% it's not much of a sign of problems for the R's?
    I think Cook is playing with the numbers in a way that do not reflect reality.

    If we cut the normal margin in half (40% -> 20%) that's a sign that all is not well on the other side of the aisle.

    If we cut it down to a a quarter (40% -> 10%) that's a pretty serious rebuke.

    I really don't have to go on.  With normal margins the fact that this might be close, even after the massive outlays by the R's and the robo calls from Dear Leader, is a sign that things are not well for them in a district that was essentially a lock.

    •  Precisely. (none / 0)

      Exactly right. Shoulda read your comment before posting mine below.
    •  Unfortunately (4.00 / 2)

      You are playing with the numbers in a way that do not reflect reality.

      First, this is an open seat race, there is no incumbent, Portman is not on the ticket. Which means that the real base line is Bush's 28 point victory.

      Second, the seat is being contested. That would move the Bush baseline even close because Kerry did not campaign hard in this part of Ohio. So with all the money going into the race, a 20 point margin would be a normal win for the Republicans.

      •  Lol (none / 0)

        I essentially responded the same below, which I find especially amusing given that DavidNYC also missed the above statements.
      •  I disagree (none / 0)

        Portman is not on the ticket.  And I will give you that, but I don't think that makes that much of a difference in this district.  My county has very similar results historically to this district in general and incumbancy is not so much of an issue.  Not nearly as much as party affiliation.

        Secondly Kerry did campaign in this part of Ohio.  The GOTV efforts in Cinncinnati last year, were the best in several cycles and both Edwards and Kerry were in this district or in counties directly adjacent to it multiple times last year.  We didn't just write it off.

    •  I think you're ignoring incumbency. (none / 1)

      I assume that in those previous elections for this seat an incumbent was reelected.  Hasn't Portman been in that seat for quite some time?

      An incumbent typically has a much easier time getting reelected than some other member of the previous incumbent's party.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:37:14 AM PDT

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      •  asdf (none / 0)

        Portman has held he seat since he was elected won the primary and general election in a special election.

        Charles Sanders of Waynesville, Ohio was run against Portman since 1998. He ran in the primary, but Hackett won. Charles came in 3. One reason local democratic parties indorsed Hackett in the primary was becasue they feared Charles would win do to name recognition. Before 1998 I am not sure which Democract ran or if one even ran.

  •  What kind of voting machines are being used? (none / 0)

    What kind of equipment are they using to register votes in OH-2? If this election is close (or even NOT close!) are we going to be discussing a "stolen election" for the next couple of weeks?  
    •  Optical Scanner and Chads (none / 0)

      No Diebold.

      Did you know ever single dollar collected from the Income Tax goes to the Military? (Everything else is paid for by Borrowing and Corporate Taxes.)

      by NCJim on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:24:21 AM PDT

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    •  I think it would be great (none / 0)

      if we were in re-count territory for a while. That would get the most out of the news cycle.
      •  They will steal it again (none / 0)

        Recounts will probably result in the GOP stealing another election. Even without Diebold, the Ohio Republicans still have other ways of cheating. (For example, they declared a false "terror alert" to keep independent observers out of a building where Bush and Kerry ballots were being stored. Or they could copy Jeb in 2000 and just not bother counting at all.)

        Of course, recounts in Ohio will also remind people of the 2004 election, and intensify calls for voting reform --- potentially more important than a congress seat. And with Bush's current unpopularity (which a statistical tie in this race would confirm), people everywhere will be more inclined to take a close look at just how he got that second term.

    •  Here's what's fabulous about that: (none / 0)

      They didn't need to install Diebold cheat machines because it's a slamdunk Republican district.

      They only need the boost in areas where there are lots of Democrats.

      Don't confuse me with the truth.

      by Q Dog on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:42:16 AM PDT

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  •  Hell Yeah! (none / 0)

    a group called ActBlue.com, brought in more than $300,000 over the last week to Hackett's coffers.

    The Bill of Rights, and not the Ten Commandments, is what should be displayed on the front of our federal buildings

    by chinkoPelinke on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:18:41 AM PDT

  •  30 (none / 0)

    If Schmidt's victory margin is in double digits, this tells us that there is not much of an anti-GOP wind in Ohio right now.

    This is way, way off base. No Democrat has gotten more than 30% of the vote in this district in two decades. Anything less than a 30-point win is a sign of trouble for the GOP here.

  •  Prediction time (none / 1)

    Hackett 50.5, Schmidt 49.5 (Total Vote Cast = 125,000)
  •  Results (none / 0)

    This PDF will supposedly be updated in real time as results come in:

    http://www.hamilton-co.org/boe/inputdata/Electionsresults/RealTime/RealTime.pdf

    (I found this through the Ohio SOS website)

  •  Politcal? (none / 0)

    I hate to be the spelling police but please fix the typo in the title to Polit-i-cal.

    "I just had the basic view of the American public -- it can't be that bad out there." Marine Travis Williams after 11 members of his squad were killed.

    by Steven D on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 08:33:04 AM PDT

  •  hmmm (none / 1)

    Even if Schmidt wins, Hackett can run again in 2006.  With the level of name recognition he has, he'd be an even stronger candidate.

    Plus, I agree that the success of making the race this close- of forcing the national Republican party to pour $$ into a district that should have been a cakewalk- is vindication of the 50 state, contest every race policy that Chairman Dean has been advocating.   Like many have said, we've already won.

  •  Will Dems Use It, Though? (none / 0)

    If Hackett comes close to winning (I'm hoping he wins, but I'm trying to be more of a realist on this post), it will be interesting to see the reaction of "leadership" Dems and Dem institutions.  Sure, I'd anticipate that Dean and his folks will use the momentum and the lessons from OH-2 and it may well be seen by potential DNC donors as a sign that the wind is blowing the Dems' way.  

    But, what of people who endorsed and advised on the way Kerry ran for office?  Those who want to steer toward the center, don't want to rock the boat, and don't want to draw defined lines between Republicans and Democrats? The Republican-lites?  The Harold Ford Jrs., the Bidens, the Liebermans, the DLCs of the party?

    Will Hackett's agressive, outspoken, and go-for-broke style be adopted or ignored?  Will they attempt to explain it away as a special circumstance or a result of the Ohio corruption scandal?  

    Forget what the Republicans say in the aftermath of OH-2.  The important thing is - what will the (non Howard Dean)Dems say?  What will they do?  

    Will they embrace OH-2 or explain it away?    

  •  Prediction--Schmidt by 10 (none / 0)

    Schmidt 55
    Hackett 45
    Turnout 25%

    I've seen the irrational exuberance on this site before.  Of course the left-wing bloggers are fired up about this.  The more attention this race gets, the more it will boost turnout.  People should be reminded that Bush won the district by 28 points.  We are talking about the hardest of hardcore Republican districts.  If Hackett wins in this territory we should pop the champagne NOW for the 2006 midterms.  I don't think the GOP wingnuts will stay home in large enough numbers to let us do that, however.

  •  election (none / 0)

    It would be nice to see a win in OH-2 but given the fact that this election is being held in Ohio, who is kidding who? If anyone believes that the same folks that brought us the 04 gop victory(Ha!) then boy do I have a deal on matching towers for you!!!
                    billjpa@aol.com
  •  another way Hackett could win (none / 0)

    Hacket might win because Republicans really do not like Jean. So they will let Hackett win, and then next year elect a better Republican in the primary, and have a real change to get the seat back.

    I am not sure how this will play out, but it could.

    •  at least one conservative group opposed to Schmidt (none / 0)

      I can't link directly to this because the COAST blog is undergoing a "redesign" today (probably got flooded from the national media attention on the race).

      But here is the relevant post from Swing State Project:

         The Coalition Opposed to Additional Spending and Taxes announced today that it is launching a radio campaign urging Republicans, conservatives and advocates of limited government to stay at home on Tuesday and cautioning voters not to vote for Republican Jean Schmidt. COAST charged that Schmidt has been posing in the campaign as an advocate of limited government and lower taxes, when the truth is the exact opposite. The script for the radio spot is attached.

          "During her tenure in the Ohio legislature, Jean Schmidt voted in favor of every single one of Bob Taft's tax increases, and for good measure, proposed more of her own," said COAST Chairman Jim Urling. "In her recent literature she says that she supports 'limited government and lower taxes.' Indeed, her voting record decidedly shows her beliefs are in bigger government and in higher taxes. She simply is a big-government advocate. Any statement by her to the contrary is a lie."

          "COAST encourages its members and all those believing in limited government and lower taxes to stay home on Tuesday, election day," implored Urling. "Another primary and general election will be held in 2006 and we will elect a good representative at that time. Please do not cast a vote for Jean Schmidt -- it will be wasted."

      If enough conservatives stay home anything could happen!

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
      Give to Populista's Obamathon 2.0!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 04:43:35 PM PDT

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  •  I made my prediction (none / 0)

    in another topic on subject and stand by it:

    Schmidt - 55%
    Hackett - 45%

    Even that may be slightly optimistic given the nature of the district, but you always want to be slightly optimistic. That would, BTW, be really great achievement on Hackett's (and, generally, Democratic) side..

  •  Watch Warren County! (none / 0)

    Warren County, Ohio is in OH-2.  If you remember from '04, the Warren County Bd. of Elections mysteriously sealed off the ballot counting from observors, claiming that they had received word from the FBI and Dept. of Homeland Security that there was a terrorist threat, which was denied by the FBI and DHS!  See http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6442857
  •  What time do the polls close in EST? (none / 0)

    Thanks !!

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    by AustinSF on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:59:08 AM PDT

  •  no less than victory (none / 0)

    When someone starts a post with "Not to bring anyone down, but..." you can bet that they absolutely plan to bring you down.

    When someone on a team says "it's not that big a deal if we lose", it's time to make a trade.

    If Hackett wins today, it's no less than huge.  And if he doesn't, we ought to damn well take it hard, because the stakes are enormous.  Every season that goes by with the Republicans in charge brings more mortal damage to the values that have made this country great.  And until we Dems remind ourselves that the values we hold dear are powerful, meaningful, and fundamentally American, and we do more than just sniff at the ugly belief systems that make the Right so un-American, un-Christian, and capital-W "Wrong", (not just distasteful), we won't win, and we won't deserve to win.

    Let's not be so cynical that we can't see how important this Ohio election is, and how much it represents a struggle of right vs. wrong, good vs. bad, decent vs. poisonously corrupt.

    nittacci

  •  hackett (none / 0)

    heres the thing - even if he wins, itll be hard to hold onto the seat.  he wont have tons of money flowing from the blogosphere, because there will be tons of other races we have to focus on.  Plus, with a much larger turnout, more republicans means a more difficult election.  On top of that, they wont run a bat shit crazy candidate next time. So im prediction a special election win, but a 2006 loss
  •  Turnout (none / 0)

    What was the toatl amount of votes cast in 04 and 02 just to use as a reference.

    War is old men talking and young men dying.

    by andgrun on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 05:26:00 PM PDT

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